I wonder if this rubs anybody the wrong way as well...
| suzette97 | Mon Oct 13 00:46:38 UTC 2008 |
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i was right next to that girl in dallas when she was Telling zac about wantig to donate that money she sounded very genuine and so did zac :)
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| ThrashGlam | Mon Oct 13 01:57:40 UTC 2008 |
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| melkncookies | Mon Oct 13 02:07:33 UTC 2008 |
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I think Zac is refering to people in college who download songs for free instead of paying with the excuse "I'm too poor." I kind of agree with Zac in this case because music is cheaper than it has ever been. CD prices have even gone down. Bottom line is that all of us should be saving money as much as possible because the economy isn't looking too hot. But you also have to remember that people in the US and other industrialized nations are still a lot better off than people in developing nations. And when we are poor, they are even poorer. I'm a teacher and I've met a lot of kids who have come to the US from refugee camps and they feel like they have won a million dollars when they get here. That is how bad it is for the poorest of poor people in the world. So always be thankful even when it's tough to pay the bills. You could have nothing at all. |
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| robertson41204 | Mon Oct 13 02:47:17 UTC 2008 |
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ok I think it is time for my 2 cents. OK yall who arent from dallas need to know this first. SMU is a private school and 9 times out of 10 your going to run into someone who goes there who has alittle cash to spair.Yes it is a college campus and yes the typical student accross the county doesn't have a lot of money durning that time in their life and yes those of you who work full time and are doing school and still mange to get up every moring to make it to the shower I respect yall the most .Now if she was from there or not who knows, I just wanted to give alittle background on the area.You see college tution is like 15,000 to 25,000 a semester ..now that is how much my whole college cost! lol..plus if her dad rasied it or not then thats wonderful that she choose a noble cause to give the funds to.It my seem like she scored a shout out on the blog and all and it could feel like she was trying to get into his panties but I am sticking my neck out and saying her action was with good intentions.I have seen that video on you tube and I think you need to know something about HANSON..They were not always so set with cash.They got there First drums ect from a pawn shop and have like a million other siblings.Plus when you get your first record deal after the manger fees and record exc. the promontional stuff your tour cost ect.. your lucky if you make 50,000 your first years out of the gate.and you have 2 other brother to split it with. They still had to go to malls and fairs and be the opening act.get water through at them boos ect..Dont yall watch behind the music !!!LOL.he is just saying go out and help you commuinty and give of your time and stop sweating the small stuff .like .99 for a download. We are a tech prev. generation and slowly we have stoped caring about others .You guys sure want them to support you and sign your shirts and hats and have meet in greets but wheres the love back in helping people who don't even have running water or a nice college dorm or a crappy apt with window that leaks .Ok I am off my soap box.... Kanas or Bust! Never Had A M&G Or a reporter ;( MAyebe some day 9/21/08 next 11/7/08 |
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| Meat_Wad | Mon Oct 13 05:12:35 UTC 2008 |
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That was kind of hard to read because it was a huge run-on sentence, but I see what you're saying and touche. I think a better thing he could have said to get the same message across was to leave the "poor college student" part out of it, because quite frankly it is irrelevant, you know? They advocate action, so what does being rich or poor have to do with it?
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| runningaway8 | Mon Oct 13 05:39:38 UTC 2008 |
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I was reading and going 'who's THAT poor in uni/college' and then remembered that the cost of uni/college is COMPLETELY different in the US to Australia. I'm sure he didn't mean any of what he's said to be offensive at all. He doesn't seem like that kind of person. I mean, look at them, all the good causes they're helping out. I highly doubt they seem like the people who would EVER get annoyed because someone can't give as much money as someone else. I think anything would be enough for them as EVERY little bit counts. I do think though, 99c isn't all that much, a once off isn't really that much. Even compared to the AUS dollar is practically the same. $1.50 which is practically nothing. You can barely even buy anything for that much LOL. So I think if you can afford to get to a concert that much shouldn't be a huge problem, but maybe some people are bad at saving. I know I'm HOPELESS haha. But I could definitely spare that much. On the whole college/uni thing...I really think america needs to fix their schooling system. Here in Australia theres lots of different ways to get into university. So whether you come from a rich family/average family/even not so well off family you can (provided you got a good enough year 12 result) get into university. Theres also tafe's which are not very hard to get into and not very expensive at all. About the same amount as school. Possibly less, if you went to a Private School (lol I live in the area where theres the most concentrated area of private schools in the whole world...theres SO many within like 3 suburbs its completely ridiculous!). Even public school people who achieved a good enough year 12 result, but don't have a whole lot of money can still go and get a degree. Theres the international student fee, which is basically the same as a full fee, where basically you pay more up front (well you can get loans but i don't know why you would as obviously you have a bit of money) and don't have to have gotten as good year 12 result as those who are in the next category im mentioning. Now I'll mention what america REALLY needs. In Australian we have HECS...well I think the name might be slightly different, iv forgotten. I'm on it but meh, i don't ppay attention. Basically i think that stands for higher education commonwealth support. Basically you pay some of the fee and the government pays some and you don't have to pay it up front. You generally don't end up paying it till you finish uni and are earning enough money. In fact, if you never end up earning enough money...you'll never pay it back HAHAHA. But mostly you do. I don't know if america has anything similar, I've just heard that college is a LOT more expensive there. even regardless of the thing we have here, or whether you have something similar. I'm only going to have about a $30,000 australian debt i think. Actuually probably less im not too sure, im just probably over estimating!!
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| robertson41204 | Mon Oct 13 12:03:35 UTC 2008 |
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sorry some times people get passionate about what they have to say run on sents. or not.Rich or poor because everyone was saying how they are this poor ass college student, and i was saying hey don't be to shocked about that happending around SMU thats how it is down there. SHEHS!!!!
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| lwashburn2 | Mon Oct 13 14:56:59 UTC 2008 |
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QUOTE: runningaway8I was reading and going 'who's THAT poor in uni/college' and then remembered that the cost of uni/college is COMPLETELY different in the US to Australia. I'm sure he didn't mean any of what he's said to be offensive at all. He doesn't seem like that kind of person. I mean, look at them, all the good causes they're helping out. I highly doubt they seem like the people who would EVER get annoyed because someone can't give as much money as someone else. I think anything would be enough for them as EVERY little bit counts. I do think though, 99c isn't all that much, a once off isn't really that much. Even compared to the AUS dollar is practically the same. $1.50 which is practically nothing. You can barely even buy anything for that much LOL. So I think if you can afford to get to a concert that much shouldn't be a huge problem, but maybe some people are bad at saving. I know I'm HOPELESS haha. But I could definitely spare that much. On the whole college/uni thing...I really think america needs to fix their schooling system. Here in Australia theres lots of different ways to get into university. So whether you come from a rich family/average family/even not so well off family you can (provided you got a good enough year 12 result) get into university. Theres also tafe's which are not very hard to get into and not very expensive at all. About the same amount as school. Possibly less, if you went to a Private School (lol I live in the area where theres the most concentrated area of private schools in the whole world...theres SO many within like 3 suburbs its completely ridiculous!). Even public school people who achieved a good enough year 12 result, but don't have a whole lot of money can still go and get a degree. Theres the international student fee, which is basically the same as a full fee, where basically you pay more up front (well you can get loans but i don't know why you would as obviously you have a bit of money) and don't have to have gotten as good year 12 result as those who are in the next category im mentioning. Now I'll mention what america REALLY needs. In Australian we have HECS...well I think the name might be slightly different, iv forgotten. I'm on it but meh, i don't ppay attention. Basically i think that stands for higher education commonwealth support. Basically you pay some of the fee and the government pays some and you don't have to pay it up front. You generally don't end up paying it till you finish uni and are earning enough money. In fact, if you never end up earning enough money...you'll never pay it back HAHAHA. But mostly you do. I don't know if america has anything similar, I've just heard that college is a LOT more expensive there. even regardless of the thing we have here, or whether you have something similar. I'm only going to have about a $30,000 australian debt i think. Actuually probably less im not too sure, im just probably over estimating!!
ok im rambling. here's the thing, the american government wants make money off everything. there is interest on our student loans, and often times you have to have a co-signer to even get a loan. george bush actually signed a law making bit a bit easier for college students to get loans. We have to fill out a form that gives the government information on how much our parents make a year and we make a year, and they determine how much money they will approve you for based off that. You are required to use your parents information unless you are: married, 24, or your parents are deceased. It's difficult for middle class to attend college because the government thinks your parents should pay part of the bill for your school when in actuality parents are unable to provide that money. we do have the same thing with paying school back though. but we always have to pay it back regardless of how much we make. luckily for me though, i am an education major and the state of oklahoma will pay for part of my student loans. (since oklahoma is the 2nd worst paid state for teachers in the nation) |
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| lisact | Mon Oct 13 19:09:23 UTC 2008 |
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I think his point may have been that some college students claim they don't have 99 cents to download a song...and therefore feel entitiled to take it for free (steal it)...I went to college before the age of downloading, and I had no money, had lots of loans, etc....but I still managed to scrounge up enough to buy CDs, because I loved music. It's easy to steal nonadays; it wasn't then...but to convince yourself you're not stealing when you take it for free just because you don't have much money is rediculous to a musician like Zac.
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| WildChild | Mon Oct 13 19:43:19 UTC 2008 |
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robertson41204 amen! That is exactly how I look at it. People are taking what he said way out of context. I'm sure he knows that some people are "poor" and don't have a lot, but there are people out there that have way less. There are ways to help without spending thousands of dollars. If our generation would care more about people in other countries who are in need and even people in their own hometowns, this world would be a better place. I love Zac and I think he is an incredible person. I think people should lay off and let it go. It's just making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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| runningaway8 | Mon Oct 13 20:49:43 UTC 2008 |
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QUOTE: lwashburn2QUOTE: runningaway8I was reading and going 'who's THAT poor in uni/college' and then remembered that the cost of uni/college is COMPLETELY different in the US to Australia. I'm sure he didn't mean any of what he's said to be offensive at all. He doesn't seem like that kind of person. I mean, look at them, all the good causes they're helping out. I highly doubt they seem like the people who would EVER get annoyed because someone can't give as much money as someone else. I think anything would be enough for them as EVERY little bit counts. I do think though, 99c isn't all that much, a once off isn't really that much. Even compared to the AUS dollar is practically the same. $1.50 which is practically nothing. You can barely even buy anything for that much LOL. So I think if you can afford to get to a concert that much shouldn't be a huge problem, but maybe some people are bad at saving. I know I'm HOPELESS haha. But I could definitely spare that much. On the whole college/uni thing...I really think america needs to fix their schooling system. Here in Australia theres lots of different ways to get into university. So whether you come from a rich family/average family/even not so well off family you can (provided you got a good enough year 12 result) get into university. Theres also tafe's which are not very hard to get into and not very expensive at all. About the same amount as school. Possibly less, if you went to a Private School (lol I live in the area where theres the most concentrated area of private schools in the whole world...theres SO many within like 3 suburbs its completely ridiculous!). Even public school people who achieved a good enough year 12 result, but don't have a whole lot of money can still go and get a degree. Theres the international student fee, which is basically the same as a full fee, where basically you pay more up front (well you can get loans but i don't know why you would as obviously you have a bit of money) and don't have to have gotten as good year 12 result as those who are in the next category im mentioning. Now I'll mention what america REALLY needs. In Australian we have HECS...well I think the name might be slightly different, iv forgotten. I'm on it but meh, i don't ppay attention. Basically i think that stands for higher education commonwealth support. Basically you pay some of the fee and the government pays some and you don't have to pay it up front. You generally don't end up paying it till you finish uni and are earning enough money. In fact, if you never end up earning enough money...you'll never pay it back HAHAHA. But mostly you do. I don't know if america has anything similar, I've just heard that college is a LOT more expensive there. even regardless of the thing we have here, or whether you have something similar. I'm only going to have about a $30,000 australian debt i think. Actuually probably less im not too sure, im just probably over estimating!!
ok im rambling. here's the thing, the american government wants make money off everything. there is interest on our student loans, and often times you have to have a co-signer to even get a loan. george bush actually signed a law making bit a bit easier for college students to get loans. We have to fill out a form that gives the government information on how much our parents make a year and we make a year, and they determine how much money they will approve you for based off that. You are required to use your parents information unless you are: married, 24, or your parents are deceased. It's difficult for middle class to attend college because the government thinks your parents should pay part of the bill for your school when in actuality parents are unable to provide that money. we do have the same thing with paying school back though. but we always have to pay it back regardless of how much we make. luckily for me though, i am an education major and the state of oklahoma will pay for part of my student loans. (since oklahoma is the 2nd worst paid state for teachers in the nation) lol, yeah where as in australia once you get to university parents have nothing to do with it. except some stuck up people who have their parents pay their loan off :| |
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| ksr19 | Mon Oct 13 20:56:20 UTC 2008 |
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He shoulda left out the whole .99 song thing and said something like bc they're always complaining about being a poor college student. Obviously most college students aren't truely poor and we know that, but lets see him put forth every cent he has just to make 100,000+ give er take more dollars in a life time.... I guess when u've got money u cant truely put urselves in ppls shoes.
And another thing, basically it seems that they have a picture perfect life, so what would he know about any sort of problems (other than the whole record co. thing lol) which obviously was a huge deal. But couldnt he just be happy that most of us our working/paying our way through school and still bought the gas to drive to them (and home) to take the walk and bought the tickets to see the show and probably spent numerous amounts of money in merchandising throughout the years... apparently thats not enough.
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| jlove1984 | Mon Oct 13 20:59:15 UTC 2008 |
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For me. I am disabled and have a fix income and working part time. I work so hard and I should be able to do what I want with my money. I live with my brother and we split the bills. I also trying to pay off my credit cards. Helping some one doesnt always referring to money. You can help some one from donate time. I help out when I can and volunteer too. Hanson 8.24.00 GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING MAKE A DIFFERENCE |
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| jlove1984 | Mon Oct 13 21:01:26 UTC 2008 |
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This is making me mad. Hanson 8.24.00 GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING MAKE A DIFFERENCE |
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| hairdiva_30 | Mon Oct 13 21:54:53 UTC 2008 |
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Amen to All the People who get it in the room!!!! |
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| burnthiscity | Mon Oct 13 22:15:37 UTC 2008 |
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a few things: yeah, $0.99 is cheap, but who listens to just ONE song? I see where he's coming from, but it's never just $0.99; it's $12-$15 for an album, plus a dollar a song. That's still pretty cheap lol... but still. And you can do so much for causes besides donating money. I'm actually kind of anti-donating money to charities and causes and all that, because a lot of systems are so corrupt anyways and the money isn't really fixing the problems, it's just prolonging it. I realize that people need a lot of help, but just giving them some money and helping them for a little bit makes them worse off, IMO. That's just me though. And whoever said TOMS were expensive - amen!!! It's a good cause but I'm not paying $50 for a pair of shoes that is so-so quality. Call me cheap, I'm just not doing it lol. "I know that I saw a ton of students who claimed to have no money, yet were going out to the bars every night, spending $10+ cover charges to get into clubs that charge $10 per drink. They made sure to buy brand new designer clothes when going out, because god knows that's what life's all about. They claimed to have no money for food and only ate Ramen Noodles, yet their refrigerators were always filled with plenty of (expensive) alcohol..." - I know they exist, but everyone I know in college isn't like that, especially not me. I've been in college for 4 1/2 years now and I've been to... 2 parties maybe? I've been to the bar ONCE lol. I don't go out much (like the mall and stuff but not partying); I care a lot about my grades and I have 3 jobs on campus and am president of our Spanish Club. I'm always either studying or working. My mommy and daddy don't help me out AT ALL either; I pay for my semester bill every semester and I owe like over $30,000 in loans (that's going to a public university too) Like for real, yeah I HAVE some money but I also have priorities, like rent and food and books. I AM a poor college student. I didn't see the interview and I see where he is coming from again because some of those people do exist, but that's also stereotyping. It did kind of annoy me that he said that; he has NO idea; none of them do. Of course, we have no idea about the lives of musicians either, just saying. Must be nice to have money and not worry about finances and juggle classes at the same time. One more thing - if he's THAT upset about Hanson's fans spending so much on tour and not on their issues/causes, I'd be happy to spend my tour money on a pair of shoes lol. I'm not saying they don't appreciate it, but I really hope they DO appreciate all the money the fans give them through concerts and merch and everything...
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| jlove1984 | Mon Oct 13 22:20:21 UTC 2008 |
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QUOTE: burnthiscitya few things: yeah, $0.99 is cheap, but who listens to just ONE song? I see where he's coming from, but it's never just $0.99; it's $12-$15 for an album, plus a dollar a song. That's still pretty cheap lol... but still. And you can do so much for causes besides donating money. I'm actually kind of anti-donating money to charities and causes and all that, because a lot of systems are so corrupt anyways and the money isn't really fixing the problems, it's just prolonging it. I realize that people need a lot of help, but just giving them some money and helping them for a little bit makes them worse off, IMO. That's just me though. And whoever said TOMS were expensive - amen!!! It's a good cause but I'm not paying $50 for a pair of shoes that is so-so quality. Call me cheap, I'm just not doing it lol. "I know that I saw a ton of students who claimed to have no money, yet were going out to the bars every night, spending $10+ cover charges to get into clubs that charge $10 per drink. They made sure to buy brand new designer clothes when going out, because god knows that's what life's all about. They claimed to have no money for food and only ate Ramen Noodles, yet their refrigerators were always filled with plenty of (expensive) alcohol..." - I know they exist, but everyone I know in college isn't like that, especially not me. I've been in college for 4 1/2 years now and I've been to... 2 parties maybe? I've been to the bar ONCE lol. I don't go out much (like the mall and stuff but not partying); I care a lot about my grades and I have 3 jobs on campus and am president of our Spanish Club. I'm always either studying or working. My mommy and daddy don't help me out AT ALL either; I pay for my semester bill every semester and I owe like over $30,000 in loans (that's going to a public university too) Like for real, yeah I HAVE some money but I also have priorities, like rent and food and books. I AM a poor college student. I didn't see the interview and I see where he is coming from again because some of those people do exist, but that's also stereotyping. It did kind of annoy me that he said that; he has NO idea; none of them do. Of course, we have no idea about the lives of musicians either, just saying. Must be nice to have money and not worry about finances and juggle classes at the same time. One more thing - if he's THAT upset about Hanson's fans spending so much on tour and not on their issues/causes, I'd be happy to spend my tour money on a pair of shoes lol. I'm not saying they don't appreciate it, but I really hope they DO appreciate all the money the fans give them through concerts and merch and everything...
i agree. you go girl. i feel the same way. i dont like the tom shoes either lol Hanson 8.24.00 GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING MAKE A DIFFERENCE |
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| MeganElFanson | Mon Oct 13 22:22:26 UTC 2008 |
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I already posted this on a previous page, but I really feel that people aren't getting the point of Tom's: "I keep seeing a lot of comments that refer to Tom's as being really expensive shoes, but one thing that needs to be considered is that it's not $50 for one pair of shoes... it's $25 each for 2 pairs of shoes. I'm not saying that the price is in the reach for everyone, because it's not, but if you were only buying just one pair for yourself and not one for an impoverished person too, then $25 for one pair of shoes is not bad!" What is it? Do you think the company is charging you $50 for your pair of shoes and producing the other pair for 'free'??? *~*megan elizabeth f.*~* Myrtle Beach, SC: 9.3.00 |
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| jlove1984 | Mon Oct 13 22:27:10 UTC 2008 |
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QUOTE: MeganElFansonI already posted this on a previous page, but I really feel that people aren't getting the point of Tom's: "I keep seeing a lot of comments that refer to Tom's as being really expensive shoes, but one thing that needs to be considered is that it's not $50 for one pair of shoes... it's $25 each for 2 pairs of shoes. I'm not saying that the price is in the reach for everyone, because it's not, but if you were only buying just one pair for yourself and not one for an impoverished person too, then $25 for one pair of shoes is not bad!" What is it? Do you think the company is charging you $50 for your pair of shoes and producing the other pair for 'free'??? i cant wear tom shoes Hanson 8.24.00 GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING MAKE A DIFFERENCE |
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| Jennifer1009 | Mon Oct 13 22:32:34 UTC 2008 |
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"One more thing - if he's THAT upset about Hanson's fans spending so much on tour and not on their issues/causes, I'd be happy to spend my tour money on a pair of shoes lol. I'm not saying they don't appreciate it, but I really hope they DO appreciate all the money the fans give them through concerts and merch and everything..."
burnthiscity, you are a genius. I love you. Seriously though, I try to give as much as I can, but when he says that everyone complains about being a poor college student, he's really misinformed on the issue. He's never been to college (or not that I'm aware of) but if he were to ever go, I'm sure he wouldn't feel any hardships financially, because we as fans are helping to raise their entire families. I'm essentially helping to pay Hanson's house payments and if he wants us to donate more to the causes that they are so passionate about, then I will. I can donate by giving $0.99 to a song, but like you said, who buys just one song at a time? I can buy a pair of TOM's but what if they aren't even your style? I mean, granted, it's going for a good cause, but it's the principle of it mattering to you before you choose to act. If Hanson wants us to pass up a concert to help those in need, so be it, but when Zac Hanson has to go to college because we're not paying to see him play, then he can find out firsthand what being poor is all about.
Money's tight all around, so to say that we're just rolling in the dough is absurd. Maybe Hanson can start the 'Help college students get a loan next semester' charity, since we all know our government is going to hell, but that's another issue altogether.
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