I wonder if this rubs anybody the wrong way as well...
| teeny0284 | Sat Oct 11 16:59:28 UTC 2008 |
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I was just reading some blogs posted by Zac. In one particular blog, I believe he was writing about the walk in Dallas - about how a girl told him she wanted to give $7000. I think this is awesome, don't get my wrong. But also he said he was surprised because they were walking on a college campus where people claim to not have enough money to download a .99 cent song. I've heard him talk about how people claim to have no money and he almost mocks college students who say they have no money. This irritates me beyond no end. I am a full time college student, and I also work full time. I still have no money. In all actuality I have less than .99 cents in my bank account right now - so no, Zac - I do not have enough money to download a .99 cent song right now. And when I get paid again, I'm going to pay off more of my medical bills, my truck payment, insurance, and rent. And also set aside some money for the Hanson show I'm going to in Falls Church at the end of the month. I'm driving 3 and a half hours so it's going to cost me an extra $150 to get there and back, on top of food, and a hotel for the night. So - in the end, I'm spending my money on your concert. Yes I could afford a .99 cent download at some point, but it sounds like Zac isn't considering that most college students have other bills that need to be paid. I think it's awesome that the girl in Dallas wanted to give $7000, too bad the rest of us really are struggling college students who can't give that much money. I don't think he understands - which means he shouldn't sound so one sided on the issue.
Just my thoughts. Teeny
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| whateyesdontsee | Sat Oct 11 17:05:05 UTC 2008 |
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Yeah I agree with you. I guess it's hard to understand other people's financial situations when you've been filthy rich since you were 11. I'm also a college student and I live paycheck to paycheck. I don't have a Hanson.net membership because I don't think I should have to pay $40 to support a band (nor can I really afford it). I think it's enough that I go to a concert and buy a shirt lol. Even though I had to save up for it. So yeah, some people might have $7000 lying around to donate, but I don't think they should expect that from everyone, I'm sure 90% of the fans feel the same. |
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| teeny0284 | Sat Oct 11 17:11:00 UTC 2008 |
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I also live paycheck to paycheck. I do consider myself lucky enough to have been able to somehow work a ton of overtime to afford the rock boat in january - that's going to be my first vacation in almost 5 years... I really do think he just doesn't understand.
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| Jennifer1009 | Sat Oct 11 17:36:12 UTC 2008 |
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I remember watching that video on youtube, where Zac talked about college students always complaining about not having any money. It bugged me for a while, because being a college student really isn't as easy as it seems. Yea, there's the party side to it, but most college students go to class full time, work part time, and still have no time to catch up on money, schoolwork, and sleep. I think of all people, Zac should understand that when Taylor's preaching on his megaphone that we can 'use what we have' to make a difference. Many of us simply don't have the money to spend thousands on making a difference. We can all do what we can, but I think I would pay off my college tuition before I donated $7000 to a charity - at least at this stage in my life. I think he probably spoke without thinking about what he was saying, but still, it kind of made me mad when the majority of Hanson's fans are in college.
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| NevadaVegas | Sat Oct 11 18:53:25 UTC 2008 |
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well i kinda understand it cause you have one half of college students that are living paycheck to paycheck, me included, im lucky enough to have a bf to split the bills with but that still leaves both of us broke most of the time. then you have college students taht are there cause mommy and daddy are footing the bill and they are the ones usually complaining. either way zac can talk all he wants but he is way ahead of most of us in his life. he has a career home marriage and kids so yea its great he can help doing what he is doing
but im not putting my career home marriage or kids (which i have none of right now but will happen in that order) to put all my time and energy into helping others. I can help here and there and I do but that is about all I can give right now.
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| faithin_music | Sat Oct 11 19:08:31 UTC 2008 |
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I saw that youtube video and it kind of hurt me also. I mean I can totally see where he would get that idea because i see college students wasting tons of money on classes they dont go to and alcohol and drugs but this isnt everyone. I mean its good to donate money to a cause your really passionate about but theirs other ways to help. Which is why I think "the walk" is a really great idea because it gets people involved and aware and doesnt cost anything. The reality is most college student are majorly broke because of all we have to pay for! |
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| echo | Sat Oct 11 19:09:11 UTC 2008 |
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I think he's probably referring to college students make the excuse that they download much for free because they can't afford to buy music because they are in college, yet you see some students spending money. I'm guessing this girl is putting herself in debt to give $7,000 if she is in college. I don't think he meant it to be offensive. Government has nothing to give anybody except what it first takes from somebody, and a government that's big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you've got. - Mackinac |
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| faithin_music | Sat Oct 11 19:10:34 UTC 2008 |
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QUOTE: echoI think he's probably referring to college students make the excuse that they download much for free because they can't afford to buy music because they are in college, yet you see some students spending money. I'm guessing this girl is putting herself in debt to give $7,000 if she is in college. I don't think he meant it to be offensive. no i dont think so either, just when you feel so broke and helpless in that situation hearing stuff like that sometime hurts |
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| echo | Sat Oct 11 19:23:53 UTC 2008 |
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I just watched a Youtube video where the girl asked Zac what advice he would give to college students...He said something about get some gonads and stop saying your just a poor college student and get up and do something.
If that's the video you are talking about, I don't think he was saying college students need to give more money, I think he was saying don't let your time in college be a time where you do nothing for other people. Doing something does not necessarialy mean giving money. There's a lot of things college students can do to make a difference that does not involve money.
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| EllieEzzie18 | Sat Oct 11 20:33:50 UTC 2008 |
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ohwow. im sure he didn't mean it that way. some college kids come from money and don't have to rely on financial aid to get them through these times. zac is just god's little activist. ya'll should really watch the stock reports more often. i myself was lucky enough to have already graduate college, im still paying off my loans. im sure whatevere ya'll donate to their cause is fine.
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| AngelMarie | Sat Oct 11 21:03:52 UTC 2008 |
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I think he was just jokin around. But Im a college student and all though i say "im a poor college student" i do have money left over from my loans so maybe he was thinkin of that.
so yeah doesnt really bug me, id be laughin if i heard him say that, but i was up with taylor durin the walk
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| 90s.kid | Sat Oct 11 21:04:01 UTC 2008 |
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I have to agree that sometimes that comment coming from Zac is hurtful.
Perhaps he doesn't mean it to come off that way, but when you live paycheck to paycheck or have been working since before it was legal for you to so just to pay for an education, it's a sensative subject.
Yeah, I sound like a hypocrite because I'm in the fan club, right? Well, I'll let you in on a few little secrets. I worked all summer, frequently 12 hour shifts. After I got back to school, and paid for all my textbooks, I decided I was going to spend some of that hard-earned money to do something nice for myself. After much contemplation, I decided NOT to spend money on going to a concert this leg of the tour. What I did instead was purchase school supplies to send to a school in Kibera, a slum in Kenya which is second only to Soweto. Then, I purchased the EP/ book to support the guys' causes as well.
And then, yeah, I decided to get myself an early holiday present and bought into the fan club.
But what I'm saying is, I'm kind of tired of Zac using that as his taunting call to action. A lot of us work so hard to be able to afford the minimum in life, and our jobs aren't playing music. Zac makes it sound like we spend all our time complaining about how we can't afford things, and that we don't support the causes. The truth is, I don't complain, and my friends don't complain, UNTIL things like this get said. And we do support causes, in fact, we give up things like concerts to be able to do so.
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| cutejesusfreak | Sat Oct 11 21:10:19 UTC 2008 |
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I can see both sides of the argument. Yes, most college students are working their tails off just to get by. But others aren't. I'm lucky enough to go to an extremely affordable public university. One of my friends attends the same university and gets all of his bills paid by the government and his parents. With the leftover money from his grants, he buys designer (Gucci, Prada) clothes. My guess is that Zac was referring to people like my friend who have plenty of money but who use college as an excuse.
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| lwashburn2 | Sat Oct 11 21:33:45 UTC 2008 |
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I am glad that this bothers other people as well. I watched the video where Zac said that and i was hurt by it. I also am a full time college student and work full time, and i live pay check to pay check. I don't think he meant to be offensive, but he was. And just because we can't all afford to give $7000, doesn't mean we don't care. How many of us have taken the walk, or have done other things to help those even less fortunate than us? --Lauren OKC 97, Tulsa 97, Tulsa 98, Tulsa 05, OKC 08, Tulsa 08, Wichita 08 |
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| bigheadsucks | Sat Oct 11 21:58:55 UTC 2008 |
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i'm not a poor college student, but i still feel compelled to post. i really don't know how exactly zac meant it, i can't speak for him, but i can say this: the only thing i've ever gave to the 'africa cause' is .99 for great divide. that's it. i refuse to give anything else. last year, my treat to myself was tour. a lot of it. this year, i found an amazing new job, making more money than i've ever made, but i spent the year getting myself ahead on all my bills, and paying off things on my credit report from a few years ago. i only went to one show on the spring tour. i've accomplished everything credit wise that i aspired to, including finally getting my first credit card. i moved out on my own when i was 15, and screwed up my credit so fast i never even had the chance to get a credit card or a loan - over the years, struggling in minimum wage jobs, i ended up with numerous utility bills defaulted on my credit report.
all of that is gone, finally. my first credit card is on it's way to me in the mail as i type, and i'm that much closer to building my credit up and buying a house. next step is fixing my husbands credit, as he just found a better job also. and yes, i've been donating here and there throughout the year, but only to my own community. i haven not and never will buy a pair of toms shoes, even though i plan on continuing my current path to higher wage and better credit - i don't want a pair of cheap, flat-soled un-supportive wal-mart quality slip ons. i can get those for $5. and if i want to donate $40 to a charity, it's going to be to my own country. charity starts at home. that's how i feel, and i'm not sorry for it - and neither should of you be sorry for it. especially if you're in college, and you're going to have thousands of dollars in loans to pay off.
i guess i mean to say - so WHAT? so what if zac DID mean it in that sense... who cares. it's your life, your hard earned money, and you shouldn't feel hurt or indignant because of something zac says. especially since (and i know i speak for most of you in this sense) when you're treating yourself or 'wasting' money, it's usually with something hanson related. amiright? ;)
also, we have to keep in mind that the hanson boys have never had to struggle financially. that's not to belittle the struggling they DID do - because everyone struggles in their own ways, with their own problems - but finance is not ever something they will have to lose sleep over. they don't get it. and that's ok, because we don't get them, either. and really, good for them for finding something to be passionate about. at least they're not selfish and uncaring - they have compassion, and the will to make a difference, and that's honorable. me, i'm just more worried about my own country, because this is where my children will be growing up. -leah |
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| uluvroxy | Sat Oct 11 22:26:55 UTC 2008 |
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Okay I have a few things to address:
First of all I know the girl who was talking to Zac about donating the money (7,000) to Hanson. I am not sure where Zac posted about this... but the whole story was not given. The girl herself was NOT giving the money. Her family ( dad's company) raised the money and wanted to donate it to a good cause so they picked Hanson. So the girl was talking to Zac about where she would send the check and who to fill it out to etc.
Second: Honestly I get where Zac is coming from when he says we should get up and do something. Let me try to put things into perspective. Yes, most of us are college students and yes most of us are "poor". ( Please beware I am not speaking about everyone this is just why I think Zac made the statement). Zac and the rest of Hanson sees us all @ their shows and walks and they hear us all saying that we want to help but we are to "poor" but we still have money to go to A LOT of shows and events. ( most of us that is). I mean me personally... there are things I could cut out on to help more. I could only go to 4 shows instead of 10 and I dont have to go on the rock boat. I dont have to go out and drink and go to movies... etc etc. I think Hanson sees that we are "talking" about a lot of stuff but we are not ACTING on it. I think every little bit helps but I am sure it discouraging to them to see how much money we spend on Merch and tour and events that could be going to a better cause. NOW ... on the other hand.. its a double edge knife because then if we cut back would it be hurting Hanson perfessionally? Would Hanson rather us go to shows or donate money? Either way I dont think Zac meant any harm and nobody should be taking it personally. I just think there are a lot of things we all can cut back on, even if it does not have to do with hanson. Less wastfull spending, less energy use, less time wasted... etc. I agree with Zac.
sorry if there are typo's I am not going to proof read :)
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| carlystur | Sat Oct 11 22:35:04 UTC 2008 |
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QUOTE: uluvroxyOkay I have a few things to address:
First of all I know the girl who was talking to Zac about donating the money (7,000) to Hanson. I am not sure where Zac posted about this... but the whole story was not given. The girl herself was NOT giving the money. Her family ( dad's company) raised the money and wanted to donate it to a good cause so they picked Hanson. So the girl was talking to Zac about where she would send the check and who to fill it out to etc.
Second: Honestly I get where Zac is coming from when he says we should get up and do something. Let me try to put things into perspective. Yes, most of us are college students and yes most of us are "poor". ( Please beware I am not speaking about everyone this is just why I think Zac made the statement). Zac and the rest of Hanson sees us all @ their shows and walks and they hear us all saying that we want to help but we are to "poor" but we still have money to go to A LOT of shows and events. ( most of us that is). I mean me personally... there are things I could cut out on to help more. I could only go to 4 shows instead of 10 and I dont have to go on the rock boat. I dont have to go out and drink and go to movies... etc etc. I think Hanson sees that we are "talking" about a lot of stuff but we are not ACTING on it. I think every little bit helps but I am sure it discouraging to them to see how much money we spend on Merch and tour and events that could be going to a better cause. NOW ... on the other hand.. its a double edge knife because then if we cut back would it be hurting Hanson perfessionally? Would Hanson rather us go to shows or donate money? Either way I dont think Zac meant any harm and nobody should be taking it personally. I just think there are a lot of things we all can cut back on, even if it does not have to do with hanson. Less wastfull spending, less energy use, less time wasted... etc. I agree with Zac.
sorry if there are typo's I am not going to proof read :)
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| marleyblue | Sat Oct 11 22:39:26 UTC 2008 |
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Well your story is different than what Zac posted. He said that she had won the lottery.
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| uluvroxy | Sun Oct 12 00:24:24 UTC 2008 |
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Well there very well could be a girl that won the lottery and is giving hanson money. But I also know a girls whos dad raised a ton of money and is giving it to Hanson. Good for them both.
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| growupmama | Sun Oct 12 00:35:35 UTC 2008 |
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actually, the girl that he was talking about DID win money and was donating a lot of it... she was in dallas... but, she is married and not a college student!
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