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iheartyoubeepbeep Tue Oct 07 15:17:53 UTC 2008
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QUOTE: pickle

It really depends how you look at it, I see it this way...

Yes taxes are going to be raised no matter who is in...

You are going to rather one or the other economically because thats whats more important to you, with my job, I work for the very wealthy, and I get to live/Lead that lifestyle, so Of course I dont want them to be taxed more...

BUT then I see it this way, My Boss presently pays out roughly 80grand per month to employees, YES thats more than most of us make per year, BUT the more Rich/People with big companies are taxed/the higher there taxed, the less people they will be able to employee...

So I rather taxes don't get raised stupidly for rich because there the ones that have cleaners/Gardners/Nannies( which I am one) and so on... so they are also, be it not as much as them, providing more jobs...

ALL of us work for someone rich, be it the macdonalds you work for/the local chain in your town, when it gets back to the orginal owner they probably have wealth, but I would rather there taxes stay at the roughly 35% and they keep a few more people employeed.

 ( I obviously don't agree with Obamas tax)

i like this statement. Thank you for posting it.   I didn't know exactly what was going on with all the taxes and what not. 

-Michelle-

I LOVE THE JONAS BROTHERS..

Hanson kicks butt...

why cant we love both?

 

 

check out my youtube.

 

www.youtube.com/user/michelle850

 

Emikoala Tue Oct 07 15:25:39 UTC 2008
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QUOTE: iheartyoubeepbeep

im on the internet.. what is the point of using capitalization??? please tell me??

 

I am forming a setence with complete punctuation for you!

 Are you happy now?  Does that make you feel better?

 

My point was that criticizing Obama for saying "Umm" when he talks is as frivolous as criticizing someone for not capitalizing/punctuating properly. Thanks for agreeing with me.

 

 

Is passion just a last resort?

guyhansonfan Tue Oct 07 15:57:44 UTC 2008
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These are HONEST QUISTIONS, if you have any for me go ahead and I'll answer them when I can (no internet at home means it may take a few days) OK On Health Care, how is giving a $5K check for people to buy it in the free market a good idea when health care costs over $12K for one person, and then tax it as income (taxing health care)? And #2 how can you pay for 2 wars (one a war of choice) WITHOUT TAXES? Barack Obama cuts spending by ending the war in Iraq witch should have never started in the first place. This is also good for our safty because we are going to get the people who got us (IE Al Queda in AFGANESSTAN).

Proud to be a "different kind of fan" since 1997

2/18/08 was the best day of my life

pickle Tue Oct 07 16:42:29 UTC 2008
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QUOTE: iheartyoubeepbeep

QUOTE: pickle

QUOTE: iheartyoubeepbeep

well im just going by what i have heard.. and i personally dont like obama at all.. i think he is an idiot.. (just my personal opinoin : ) ) therefore.. im for McCain... : )

And I'm sorry but this make us as voters look stupid!!!

You don't go by what you have just heard, get of the jonas brothers site for 5 minutes/hanson.net for 5 minutes and damn well educate yourself.

You especially as a female are very privileged to vote... don't take advantage of it!!

P.S Obama is not an idiot, especially if you are stating that on other peoples opinions( which you just admitted.

Oh and I hope McCain wins, so no, I'm not just saying that because you think obama is an idiot... Im saying it because you sound like an idiot. 

First of all.. yes .. that statement right there my have be an idiotic statement.. What the hell does me sitting on the jonas brothers site have to do with anything?  I dont even go on there thanks.. :  ) second of all.. i do know some things about this election. im not going to spend every second of my life watching presidential debates and such. I know my opinions and where i stand on political point and im voting for the one that i feel will represent me the best and in that case it is McCain as far as i have seen as of right now.  so I'm sorry that i obviously have different political views than most people on h.net.  Please tell me where that is a crime. but thank you for pointing out my fault on that statement.   

Its not that you have different views, thats very obviously not what Im pointing out... Im pointing out, take 5 minutes and go look it up yourself before you sprout of crap!!

Don't go around calling people idiots, its one thing BOTH are not. 

(sorry no letter before B)


 

pickle Tue Oct 07 16:44:45 UTC 2008
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QUOTE: iheartyoubeepbeep

QUOTE: pickle

It really depends how you look at it, I see it this way...

Yes taxes are going to be raised no matter who is in...

You are going to rather one or the other economically because thats whats more important to you, with my job, I work for the very wealthy, and I get to live/Lead that lifestyle, so Of course I dont want them to be taxed more...

BUT then I see it this way, My Boss presently pays out roughly 80grand per month to employees, YES thats more than most of us make per year, BUT the more Rich/People with big companies are taxed/the higher there taxed, the less people they will be able to employee...

So I rather taxes don't get raised stupidly for rich because there the ones that have cleaners/Gardners/Nannies( which I am one) and so on... so they are also, be it not as much as them, providing more jobs...

ALL of us work for someone rich, be it the macdonalds you work for/the local chain in your town, when it gets back to the orginal owner they probably have wealth, but I would rather there taxes stay at the roughly 35% and they keep a few more people employeed.

 ( I obviously don't agree with Obamas tax)

i like this statement. Thank you for posting it.   I didn't know exactly what was going on with all the taxes and what not. 
This is NOT how taxes are 100% this is my opinion of how *I* as an individual see them, and stated that... Don't just agree with it, because I said it.

(sorry no letter before B)


 

pickle Tue Oct 07 16:53:31 UTC 2008
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QUOTE: guyhansonfan

These are HONEST QUISTIONS, if you have any for me go ahead and I'll answer them when I can (no internet at home means it may take a few days) OK On Health Care, how is giving a $5K check for people to buy it in the free market a good idea when health care costs over $12K for one person, and then tax it as income (taxing health care)? And #2 how can you pay for 2 wars (one a war of choice) WITHOUT TAXES? Barack Obama cuts spending by ending the war in Iraq witch should have never started in the first place. This is also good for our safty because we are going to get the people who got us (IE Al Queda in AFGANESSTAN).


1.Not everyone spends 12 grand per year, Lots of people don't spend anything...don't people on average( that get it) spend around 300 per month??? say even on average someone spent 500 per month, its only 6000 per year, YES it will be taxed, but each individual, that is insured will get 5000 back, which will be canceling out a lot of it, its a way to make it cheaper, even if its only slightly for some... at least its cheaper.

P.S I was born in a country where we have free medical, BUT knowing how its run, and living in the US and experiencing it,with the population , it will NEVER work... also they way its set up, millions will be out of jobs, and nothing is ever completely free? want to know how the other countries get free medical... we are taxed the crud out of our pay.( even more so than the US.

2.I don't care what anyone thinks, Obama is not pulling troops out straight away... If he wins in Nov, i promise you they will not be pulled straight out.. right now there fixing the damage they did( I don't agree with the war) and personally I would rather my tax dollars go there a little longer and fix the damage done, before pulling out.

Something everyone forgets as well, everyone over there made the choice themselfs to be there. 

(sorry no letter before B)


 

guyhansonfan Tue Oct 07 17:04:32 UTC 2008
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He never said right away he said 11 months. even Bush is supporteve of that. McCain says he wants to say till the end of time.

And on health care, only people who can't get it any other way well get goverment health care, and it well be the same as congressmen and senators get and I think everyday people deseavre it more then they do.



P.S after readiing some of the other posts on here WHATS WITH ALL THE NAME CALLING??? so what if your voting for McCain or Obama? Can't we have a talk intelagently about this? I'm the biggest Obama fan you'll find and I don't insult Mcain. I'd rather talk about why I'm for my guy.

Proud to be a "different kind of fan" since 1997

2/18/08 was the best day of my life

pickle Tue Oct 07 17:16:20 UTC 2008
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Honestly I don't think it will be 11 months, and i highly doubt McCain said the end of time, he knows he would NEVER win an election/be reelected for that.

 

the health care thing you said doesn't even make sense...( to me anyway)

and if your referring to me, the reason I did that is because even though Im a McCain supporter, and so is the other person, you should still educate your self, now that is intelligent.

(sorry no letter before B)


 

iheartyoubeepbeep Tue Oct 07 22:57:43 UTC 2008
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thank you pickle? nice name btw! i know i need to educate myself more on the election.. but with what i have researched and heard from the debates.. im for McCain.. but is so hard for me to follow what they are saying sometimes cuz im not really big on politics so im like what are you talking about! haha.. i agree.. that you need to make an educated decision when voting.

-Michelle-

I LOVE THE JONAS BROTHERS..

Hanson kicks butt...

why cant we love both?

 

 

check out my youtube.

 

www.youtube.com/user/michelle850

 

guyhansonfan Wed Oct 08 17:32:40 UTC 2008
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I was not refering to you. I was refering to others. I don't have anything agenst you. Matter of fact I think we have had a pretty good back and forth and I respct you, even though i don't agree with you.

Proud to be a "different kind of fan" since 1997

2/18/08 was the best day of my life